Posts by Mall Cop

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For Terry - So That it Will "Make Sense"

by Perry in

terry, since you have long proclaimed your inability to comprehend the greatest expression of love in the universe, substitutionary atonement; perhaps this scene from the last of the mohicans will help you to understand.. the chief has just handed down a death sentence to the brunette daughter of the captured english general.

the english officer in this scene can speak both english and french.

since daniel day lewis can only speak mohican and english, and the cheif can only speak huron and french, the captured english officer must translate to the chief in french.

Mall Cop

"So that it will make sense." Perry you believe everything you have posted because the Bible tells you so. You believe the Bible because the Bible tells you that God inspired the words that you believe. We come circular with this belief.

Now, you also tell us that you can go beyond the Bible because you have a very personal experience with Jesus and that can't be argued.

Combining the two together you have certainty in your life and want to share this with us and anyone who would believe as you do.

Many of us have come to realize that "The Bible" which is believed by many that it is a historical book and does reflects the mind of a people living thousands of years ago.

So, we cannot accept any of your arguments when you cite scriptures to support them. The believers here will agree with you, however try as you may to convince those of us that know for a "FACT" as you like to say, that the Bible is a sacred text that originates with ancient Israel.

Therefore , so that it will "Make Sense" I believe that "Death Anxiety" is the cause of latching unto any kind of belief system that will bring relief from this anxiety. Feeling that one has a special relationship with God/Jesus calms the heart and mind and frees one from "Death Anxiety."

This seems to be working for you. Take good care of yourself and rest ion the certainty of your own beliefs as I do mine.

Blueblades? Mall Cop

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The 3 Stark Choices of Individual Witnesses

by metatron in

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there's been a lot of comment on this site about witnesses becoming more blind and fanatical and eagerly willing to believe anything the glorious masters of time and space, grand poobah, bright as a labrador retriever, governing frauds tell them.. but it really comes down to 3 stark choices.

the more reality intrudes on the lives of individual witnesses, the more they will be driven into some combination of these catagories:.

1) dumber - the most popular choice.

Mall Cop

Metatron what about what I responded to, could their be a fourth reason?

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Is God Necessary for Morality?

by leavingwt in

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is god necessary for morality?.

below are videos of two debates on this topic.

each debate features dr. william lane craig, an american evangelical apologist, theologian and philosopher.

Mall Cop

What is morality? It is a code of values to guide man's choices and actions, the choices and actions that determine the purpose and course of his life.

So, God is not necessary for morality.

Blueblades/Mall Cop

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In search of truth

by PYRAMIDSCHEME in

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now that you have discovered the "truth" is not the truth, do you still believe that a truth exists?

do you think you have found one, are you still searching or have you given up on the whole idea of an absolute truth?.

Mall Cop

Reasoning helps us know and understand some truth but not all the truth.

When we examined why we believed the Watchtower had the truth that leads to eternal life our reasoning helped us to understand that this simply not true.

When we go in search of truth, what exactly are we searching for? I.E. Proof of God's existence? Is it true that God exist's or does not exist, What does our reasoning tell us?

Each one of us is alone in this search for truth. Some have faith, not based on evidence, that they have found the truth about certain beliefs.

Some have used their reasoning ability and found that they have evidence concerning certain truths.

I.E. Looking at the natural creation and reasoning on how it all functions helps some to conclude that there is a creator ( not the Bible version ).

Others conclude that we just can't know the real truth about a creator. Still others say there is no God and that is their truth. Others live and die in their respective belief systems believing this is the truth.

Death anxiety plagues us all and so we need to latch on to something to get relief from this kind of anxiety of not knowing if there is life after death or nothing.

So we dig in and sometimes what we believed was the truth at any given time in our life changes as we experience life in the march toward our own end.

Just my thoughts I'm sharing, in search of truth.

Blueblades/Mall Cop

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Blondie's Comments You Will Not Hear at the 07-18-10 WT Study (REACH OUT)

by blondie in

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comments.

you sow with a view to the spirit.

Mall Cop

Hi Blondie! Thanks for this, feel better and take good care of yourself. If Jehovah is answering prayer in an unpresidented way with increases in congregations and baptisms why not in elders and ministerial positions?

Why has Jehovah made increases in halls, congregations and baptisms and left off not having people in positions to care for this increase?

If as the Watchtower is saying in paragraph one is true, then Jehovah has failed to make sure that men would be in place to handle this increase.

The answer is obvious.

Blueblades/Mall Cop

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The 3 Stark Choices of Individual Witnesses

by metatron in

jw
friends

there's been a lot of comment on this site about witnesses becoming more blind and fanatical and eagerly willing to believe anything the glorious masters of time and space, grand poobah, bright as a labrador retriever, governing frauds tell them.. but it really comes down to 3 stark choices.

the more reality intrudes on the lives of individual witnesses, the more they will be driven into some combination of these catagories:.

1) dumber - the most popular choice.

Mall Cop

Hi Metatron! Where would you fit Don Cameron's "Captives of an Illusion?" I like to think that i did not fit the 3 you mention here when I served for 33 years. I believe I was captive to an illusion.

That is that the few men on the governing body were Jesus's appointed slaves and so we follow whatever they teach.

The captivity lasted x amount of years for the many intelligent ones that finally escaped by whatever means took away that illusion.

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Did You Ever Really Listen At The Meetings?

by minimus in

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toward the end of my meeting attendance, i started to pay attention (as best as i could) to what was being said and that was truly the final nail in the coffin.. when you actually decipher the "reasoning" of the "truth", you can't help but see things clearly..

Mall Cop

BYE BYE!

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For Perry: There was no global flood, so stop looking for Noah's Ark

by BurnTheShips in

forget about noahs ark; there was no worldwide flood.

many people have contacted me about the recent claims by a group called noahs ark ministries international.1 the evangelical organization claims to have discovered noahs ark.2 i have responded on several occasions to these dubious claims on my blog.3 and still, this group has stood behind their claim,4 insisting that what they have found is real based largely on the belief that because the bible says the flood and the ark are historical, it must be so.

so, instead of addressing their spurious claims yet again, i thought i would approach the issue from a different angle: forget about noahs ark; there was no world-wide flood.. the worldwide flood described in genesis 6-9 is not historical, but rather a combination of at least two flood stories, both of which descended from earlier mesopotamian flood narratives.

Mall Cop

Wow! I like to read and that says it all! BTS Good one ,it's a keeper.

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God's forced PLOT point (which just doesn't make sense!)

by Terry in

the bifurcation of christianity's dealing with the "plot" that drives god's "plan" is never more explicitly revealed as not logically reasoned out than when it comes to the "good" and the "evil" being judged.. what is the point in judging "evil" if god is going to simply call the same sinful, imperfect man "good" who confesses christ?.

it makes about as much sense as putting a zero on top of a zero and calling it 8.. justification is nothing more than calling evil "good" by reframing the context.

sin kills man.

Mall Cop

You remind of another plot. The Passover plot. Jesus did not die on the cross etc. interesting read.

Yes it is what it is.

Hi Michelle! I thought that God created perfect humans without other characteristics. There was no goatly or sheeply chararacterics in his creation. Humans were made in the image and likeness of God and he don't have those kinds of characteristics in his makeup. Am I understanding you correctly.

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Why Trust the Bible?

by Mad Sweeney in

there have been numerous posts and threads on jwn about why a rational person should re-think trust in the bible as the inspired and inerrant word of god.

these are usually based on clear and logical thinking and reasoning.. the wts and other religious entities have published tracts and books to convince people that the bible is indeed the inspired and inerrant word of god.

these are usually based on circular and fallacious thinking and reasoning.

Mall Cop

BTS, If our heart loves good, we will all find the way.. Even with my doubts, I have always felt that "THE WAY" you speak of is found in the two greatest commamdments uttered by Jesus, if you believe it. Love God and your neighbor, with all your heart! For if one follows this you will not do harm to your neighbor and the love for God will attach yourself to him forever.